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Olivia Attwood gets teary-eyed as she talks Chris Hughes

By Ryan Smith for MailOnline

Published: 13:23 GMT, 16 February 2018 | Updated: 14:02 GMT, 16 Februa..

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By Ryan Smith for MailOnline

Published: 13:23 GMT, 16 February 2018 | Updated: 14:02 GMT, 16 February 2018

Over the weekend, they shocked fans when they announced that their romance had come to an end, months after first meeting on the hit reality show Love Island.

And Olivia Attwood has now revealed that after Chris Hughes broke up with her as they spoke on the phone over the weekend, he insisted that their in-person break-up take place in front of cameras for their spin-off show Crackin' On.

Struggling to hold back tears as she made an appearance on ITV's Loose Women on Friday, the blonde beauty admitted that she found the entire experience 'horrendous' – and ruled out a reunion with Chris as she got to grips with their sudden split.

Emotional: Olivia Attwood fought back the tears as she opened up about her split from Chris Hughes during an appearance on Friday's instalment of ITV chat show Loose Women

Wearing a pink sheer blouse, she recounted details of the split, telling the daytime show's co-hosts: 'As we are filming the show [for ITVBe], it’s something we haven’t been able to avoid talking about. People are now unfortunately going to see it.

'Over the weekend Chris made the decision that he wanted to leave the relationship. [It was] a phone call – I didn’t really take it seriously, if I’m honest with you. He’s quite reactive, he’s said it to me before a few times in anger.'

Explaining what led to his shocking decision, she said: 'I went out the week before and I had a few too many drinks and I sent some stupid tweets – to many people, but one was my ex-boyfriend, which obviously is distasteful and not funny.

Split: Chris Hughes broke up with Olivia during a phone conversation over the weekend - and Olivia revealed that he insisted their first physical post-split meeting happen before cameras

Split: Chris Hughes broke up with Olivia during a phone conversation over the weekend – and Olivia revealed that he insisted their first physical post-split meeting happen before cameras

Anguish: Olivia admitted that she felt 'abandoned' after unexpectedly parting ways with Chris

'It’s one of those things, when you’re out with the girls, I thought it was really funny. It’s not funny, and if Chris had done it I’d be annoyed. It really upset him. It obviously upset him to the point where he wanted to end the relationship.'

She continued: 'I’ve obviously taken it really hard because I feel like I’ve stood by Chris through all sorts of things that, to me, were a lot harder to swallow than a tweet would be. [Rumours of texts to Katie Price] being one of, for example.'

Olivia added: 'We’re meant to be a team, I’ve stood by [him] through different things and now I feel a bit abandoned. It [sending the tweets] was a stupid thing to do.'

Recalling their fateful conversation, she said: '[We were] on the phone for a couple of minutes he said, "I want to break up.'" I was doing something I said, "Chris I’m not doing this now."

Comforting embrace: After Stacey Solomon read out a letter from Chris, Olivia was seen welling up as she shared a warm hug with the Loose Women co-host

Hugs: Linda Robson looked on as reality TV beauty Olivia struggled to keep herself composed

'The day before filming he text and said, just so you know, obviously I don’t want to have to do tomorrow but we’re going to have to do it. I text him and said Chris, I’m really unhappy – I know we’d signed up to do a reality TV show – [but] for that raw moment [to be filmed]…

'[I said] if you’re serious about this we can follow the reality without having strangers in the room for that actual moment. That was the first time I saw him. Us breaking up is the rawest… I don’t know…

Chris Hughes' Letter to Olivia Attwood in full

'I never wanted this playing out in public but circumstances have forced us so here we are. This is a message for Olivia, my heart is genuinely broken. What you say on Loose Women is completely fine, you should do whatever you feel is best. I only have one thing to say which is you are one of the most special, beautiful people I have ever met. The experience that we have and have had together and the memories will stay with me forever. I wish nothing but the best for you. Your always, Chris.'

'I’m not going to be able to watch it. It was horrendous to live it. I wanted to wait until cameras had gone and be with Chris on my own. We had a conversation later on after but it’s kind of, it went on for ages. It was done then. He said I am serious. I’m going to remember that forever.'

She also insisted that she'd stuck by Chris during worse times and therefore didn't deserve to be dumped in such a fashion.

Olivia stated: 'Even though there were times when I felt like I should have walked away I haven’t. Now obviously he’s ready to leave the relationship, I feel like I’m not quite ready, it’s a difficult one.

'It’s 100 per cent real, it’s not going to make for comfortable viewing because we’re both in absolutely bits. I feel awful. I’m quite ballsy and always making jokes, I’ve been crying for three days straight and that’s not me at all. I don’t cry. It’s hit me a lot harder than I ever thought it would.'

And while Olivia kept herself largely composed throughout the emotional interview, she welled up as co-host Stacey Solomon read a letter that Chris had sent into the studio to address the split.

After he deemed her 'one of the most special, beautiful people' he had ever met, Olivia got teary-eyed and leaned over to Stacey for a reassuring hug.

Afterwards she said: 'Thank you. That’s very mixed emotions. One hand it’s like you’re amazing, but I don’t [want to be with you]… it’s a bit confusing.

'Chris has always been good at the lovey-dovey stuff of emotion across the board, affection, I feel like I’m not so much. I didn’t feel like I was the most special… I’m sure at times he didn’t think he was the most special boy. We definitely let each other down at points.'

And Olivia appeared defiant in her stance that the pair will likely never reunite, following their devastating – and very public – parting.

'Personally I’d find this incredibly hard to come back from just from the way I feel my emotions were handled,' she said. 'I feel like I was much more understanding with him. I find that quite hard to deal with.'

All over: The couple had planned to spend the day in their new home together but it wasn't to be

Chris Hughes has called upon his friends for support on Valentine's Day after his shock split from girlfriend Olivia Attwood as he struggles to deal with his emotions.

A source told MailOnline: 'They were really looking forward to spending their first Valentine's together in their home.

'Instead they are both spending it separately with friends. They both seem really upset by the ordeal.'

Chris, 25, and Olivia, 26, have a reality show due out which covers their life together since they finished Love Island – but the writing was sadly on the wall.

They had kept fans guessing over the state of their eight month romance for days with slews of cryptic tweets, yet a friend of Chris' confirmed that there is no going back for the pair.

They told MailOnline: 'Chris broke up with Olivia over the weekend due to a breakdown in trust in the relationship.'

The friend continued: 'Everybody knew that Olivia was still up to no good with her ex and the tweets proved it.

Trust problems: A source had previously told MailOnline: 'Chris broke up with Olivia (pictured) over the weekend due to a breakdown in trust in the relationship'

'It all got too much for Chris so he called her and ended it, it’s sad because he adored her.'

Olivia has since dismissed his claims, with friends insisting his 'inappropriate' behaviour led to a breakdown in the relationship.

A source told MailOnline: 'Chris has publicly humiliated Olivia on many occasions – messaging Katie Price and lying about it, kissing a girl in the Sugar Hut and being verbally abusive at her work event, saying f**k Rita Ora and Liam Payne, I’m Chris Hughes.” Yet she has stood by him despite people telling her to leave him.'

'There are countless incidents where he has behaved inappropriately. Olivia feels used by Chris; she’s stuck by him believing he loved her but the realisation is it was all about monetising their situation.'

Online? Chris hinted at their split on Tuesday, as he took to Twitter to share 'Tinder eyyy', after a fan tweeted him about dating profiles

Upset: The star also responded to tweets about planning a girls' trip to Vegas by confessing 'Can't think of a better time' alongside a crying face and broken heart emoji

Cryptic: Olivia retweeted a cryptic post by the 'Illuminati' Twitter account that spoke about relationship problems

Chris hinted at their split on Tuesday, as he took to Twitter to share 'Tinder eyyy', after a fan tweeted him confessing: 'SOOO many boys on Tinder have photos with Chris Hughes at club appearances as their main pic like hun that’s not gonna help u look attractive standing next to a god'.

Meanwhile, Olivia retweeted a cryptic post that read 'You'll end up really disappointed if you think people will do for you as you do for them. Not everyone has the same heart as you.'

The star also responded to tweets about planning a girls' trip to Vegas by confessing 'Can't think of a better time' alongside a crying face and broken heart emoji.

Happier times: Chris and Olivia have endured a turbulent romance ever since their appearance on Love Island in June

Olivia was caught sending messages to her ex-boyfriends last week, despite her romance with the hunk.

Chris first revealed they were having problems with an Instagram snap of himself stroking his dog on Friday – as he wrote in the caption: 'The closest people eventually let you down.'

He accompanied the image with the cryptic caption: 'The closest people eventually let you down. These animals don’t. My Polar Bear equivalent.'

Hinting he and Olivia had broken up with the comment, Chris later edited the caption so it instead read: 'She won't let me down. My Polar Bear equivalent'.

Mysterious: Chris first hinted he had split from Olivia on Friday, by sharing a cryptic Instagram snap (above) captioned: 'The closest people eventually let you down'

The post came after it was claimed Olivia had been messaging her ex-boyfriends behind Chris' back.

The Love Island starlet was allegedly in contact with Bradley Dack and ‘Muggy’ Mike Thalassitis, with The Sun Online detailing their now-deleted exchanges, and claiming that Chris is 'furious' about the messages.

The first incident came on Wednesday night as Olivia responded to a picture of her ex Bradley wearing a yellow top on the Blackburn Rovers Twitter account.

Walk down memory lane: The Love Island starlet has been in contact with Bradley Dack and ‘Muggy’ Mike Thalassitis, with now-deleted exchanges on Twitter

She wrote 'yellow suits you', 'hey' and 'fatty' under the image, before later deleting her tweets.

Before she had the chance, however, The Sun reports that Olivia replied to the messages saying 'interesting', shortly before removing his own messages.

On the same evening she reached out to Bradley, Olivia is also said to have tweeted Chris' love rival, Mike, addressing him without explanation by saying: 'And don’t be a massive p***k'.

Flirtatious: The first incident came on Wednesday night as Olivia responded to a picture of her ex Bradley wearing a yellow top on the Blackburn Rovers Twitter account

Former flame: Olivia dated Blackburn Rovers midfielder Bradley for four months prior to her appearance on Love Island, with the pair supposedly 'serious' and 'really into each other'

A source told MailOnline: 'Chris is obviously gutted and a bit embarrassed by the tweets as he adores Olivia'.

Mike and Olivia first became involved during Love Island, with the stars being caught in a love triangle until ultimately Chris won over her affections.

Meanwhile, Olivia dated Blackburn Rovers midfielder Bradley for four months prior to her appearance on Love Island, with the pair supposedly 'serious' and 'really into each other'.

The one who got away: Mike Thalassitis and Olivia first became involved during Love Island, with the stars being caught in a love triangle until ultimately Chris won over her affections

Random: Olivia is also said to have tweeted Chris' love rival, Mike, addressing him without explanation by saying: 'And don’t be a massive p***k'

In August last year, Olivia was pictured kissing the neck of her ex, Bradley outside Faces nightclub in Essex, but the pair brushed off the controversy with Chris and Olivia claiming to be stronger than ever.

The latest scandal came just days after Chris and Olivia professed their love to one another.

The couple moved in together over Christmas and admitted they would consider getting married in the famous Mallorca villa where they found love – as they joked that co-stars Kem Cetinay and Amber Davies could be flower girl and page boy.

Making plans: The latest scandal comes after Chris and Olivia professed their love to one another. The couple moved in together over Christmas and said things are now firmly on track

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Ben Roberts-Smith: Top soldier won’t apologise for alleged war crimes

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June 22, 2023

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Ben Roberts-Smith is proud of his actions in Afghanistan, the former Australian soldier said in his first comments since a judge ruled claims he committed war crimes were true.

A landmark defamation case this month found Mr Roberts-Smith was responsible for the murders of four Afghans.

The Victoria Cross recipient says he is innocent and will consider an appeal.

“I’m devastated… It’s a terrible outcome and it’s the incorrect outcome,” he said on Wednesday.

Speaking to reporters from Nine as he returned to Australia for the first time since the judgement was delivered, Mr Roberts-Smith also said he would not apologise to those affected by his alleged crimes.

“We haven’t done anything wrong, so we won’t be making any apologies,” he said.

Mr Roberts-Smith sued three Australian newspapers over a series of articles alleging he had carried out unlawful killings and bullied fellow soldiers while deployed in Afghanistan between 2009-2012.

But Federal Court Judge Anthony Besanko threw out the former special forces corporal’s case against The Age, The Sydney Morning Herald, and The Canberra Times, ruling it was “substantially true” that Mr Roberts-Smith had murdered unarmed Afghan prisoners and civilians, and bullied peers.

The 44-year-old, who remains Australia’s most-decorated living soldier, was not present for the civil court ruling, having spent the days leading up to it on the Indonesian resort island of Bali.

Mr Roberts-Smith, who left the defence force in 2013, has not been charged over any of the claims in a criminal court, where there is a higher burden of proof.

None of the evidence presented in the civil defamation case against Mr Roberts-Smith can be used in any criminal proceedings, meaning investigators must gather their own independently.

This week it was confirmed that the Office of the Special Investigator (OSI) – which is responsible for addressing criminal matters related to the Australian Defence Force in Afghanistan – would work alongside Australian Federal Police (AFP) to examine three alleged murders local media say involve the former soldier.

The killings allegedly took place at a compound codenamed Whiskey 108 and in the southern Afghan village of Darwan.

The OSI was set up following a landmark inquiry in 2020, known as the Brereton Inquiry, which found “credible evidence” that Australia’s special forces unlawfully killed 39 people in Afghanistan.

There are currently 40 matters that are being jointly investigated by the OSI and the AFP.

Earlier this year former SAS soldier Oliver Schulz became the first Australian defence force member to ever be charged by police with the war crime of murder.

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Why Australia decided to quit its vaping habit

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May 28, 2023

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He’s talking about students in his class, teenagers, who can’t stop vaping.

He sees the effect of the candy-flavoured, nicotine-packed e-cigarettes on young minds every day, with children even vaping in class.

“The ones who are deepest into it will just get up out of their seat, or they’ll be fidgeting or nervous. The worst offenders will just walk out because they’re literally in withdrawal.”

Those who are most addicted need nicotine patches or rehabilitation, he says, talking about 13 and 14-year-olds.

is enough and introduced a range of new restrictions. Despite vapes already being illegal for many, under new legislation they will become available by prescription only.

The number of vaping teenagers in Australia has soared in recent years and authorities say it is the “number one behavioural issue” in schools across the country.

And they blame disposable vapes – which some experts say could be more addictive than heroin and cocaine – but for now are available in Australia in every convenience store, next to the chocolate bars at the counter.

For concerned teachers like Chris, their hands have been tied.

“If we suspect they have a vape, all we can really do is tell them to go to the principal’s office.

“At my old school, my head teacher told me he wanted to install vape detector alarms in the toilet, but apparently we weren’t allowed to because that would be an invasion of privacy.”

E-cigarettes have been sold as a safer alternative to tobacco, as they do not produce tar – the primary cause of lung cancer.

Some countries continue to promote them with public health initiatives to help cigarette smokers switch to a less deadly habit.

Last month, the UK government announced plans to hand out free vaping starter kits to one million smokers in England to get smoking rates below 5% by 2030.

But Australia’s government says that evidence that e-cigarettes help smokers quit is insufficient for now. Instead, research shows it may push young vapers into taking up smoking later in life.

‘Generation Vape’

Vapes, or e-cigarettes, are lithium battery-powered devices that have cartridges filled with liquids containing nicotine, artificial flavourings, and other chemicals.

The liquid is heated and turned into a vapour and inhaled into the user’s lungs.

Vaping took off from the mid-2000s and there were some 81 million vapers worldwide in 2021, according to the Global State of Tobacco Harm Reduction group.

Fuelling the rise is the mushrooming popularity of flavoured vapes designed to appeal to the young.

These products can contain far higher volumes of nicotine than regular cigarettes, while some devices sold as ‘nicotine-free’ can actually hold large amounts.

The chemical cocktail also contains formaldehyde, and acetaldehyde – which have been linked to lung disease, heart disease, and cancer.

There’s also a suggestion of an increased risk of stroke, respiratory infection, and impaired lung function.

Experts warn not enough is known about the long-term health effects. But some alarming data has already been drawn out.

In 2020, US health authorities identified more than 2,800 cases of e-cigarette or vaping-related lung injury. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found 68 deaths attributed to that injury.

In Australia, a major study by leading charity The Cancer Council found more than half of all children who had ever vaped had used an e-cigarette they knew contained nicotine and thought that vaping was a socially acceptable behaviour.

School-age children were being supplied with e-cigarettes through friends or “dealers” inside and outside school, or from convenience stores and tobacconists, the report said.

Teens also reported purchasing vapes through social media, websites and at pop-up vape stores, the Generation Vape project found.

“Whichever way teenagers obtain e-cigarettes, they are all illegal, yet it’s happening under the noses of federal and state authorities”, report author and Cancer Council chair Anita Dessaix said.

“All Australian governments say they’re committed to ensuring e-cigarettes are only accessed by smokers with a prescription trying to quit – yet a crisis in youth e-cigarette use is unfolding in plain view.”

In addition to the government’s move to ban the import of all non-pharmaceutical vaping products – meaning they can now only be bought with a prescription – all single-use disposable vapes will be made illegal.

The volume and concentration of nicotine in e-cigarettes will also be restricted, and both flavours and packaging must be plain and carrying warning labels.

But these new measures are not actually all that drastic, says public health physician Professor Emily Banks from the Australian National University.

“Australia is not an outlier. It is unique to have a prescription-only model, but other places actually ban them completely, and that includes almost all of Latin America, India, Thailand and Japan.”

‘We have been duped’

Health Minister Mark Butler said the new vaping regulations will close the “biggest loophole in Australian healthcare history”.

“Just like they did with smoking… ‘Big Tobacco’ has taken another addictive product, wrapped it in shiny packaging and added sweet flavours to create a new generation of nicotine addicts.”

“We have been duped”, he said.

Medical experts agree. Prof Banks argues that the promotion of e-cigarettes as a “healthier” alternative was a classic “sleight-of-hand” from the tobacco industry.

As such vaping has become “normalised” in Australia, and in the UK too.

“There’s over 17,000 flavours, and the majority of use is not for smoking cessation”, she tells the BBC.

“They’re being heavily marketed towards children and adolescents. People who are smoking and using e-cigarettes – that’s the most common pattern of use, dual use.”

Professor Banks says authorities need to “de-normalise” vaping among teenagers and make vapes much harder to get hold of.

“Kids are interpreting the fact that they can very easily get hold of [vapes] as evidence [they’re safe], and they’re actually saying, ‘well, if they were that unsafe, I wouldn’t be able to buy one at the coffee shop’.

But could stricter controls make it harder for people who do turn to vapes hoping to quit or cut down on tobacco?

“It is important to bear in mind that for some people, e-cigarettes have really helped. But we shouldn’t say ‘this is great for smokers to quit’, says Prof Banks.

“We know from

Australia, from the US, from Europe, that two-thirds to three-quarters of people who quit smoking successfully, do so unaided.”

“You’re trying to bring these [vapes] in saying they’re a great way to quit smoking, but actually we’ve got bubble gum flavoured vapes being used by 13-year-olds in the school toilets. That is not what the community signed up for.”

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Australia: Scott Morrison saga casts scrutiny on Queen’s representative

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August 27, 2022

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In the past fortnight, Australia has been gripped by revelations that former Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison secretly appointed himself to several additional ministries.

The move has been labelled a “power grab” by his successor as prime minister, and Mr Morrison has been scolded by many – even his own colleagues.

But the scandal has also dragged Australia’s governor-general into the fray – sparking one of the biggest controversies involving the Queen’s representative in Australia in 50 years.

So does Governor-General David Hurley have questions to answer, or is he just collateral damage?

‘Just paperwork’

Governors-general have fulfilled the practical duties as Australia’s head of state since the country’s 1901 federation.

Candidates for the role were initially chosen by the monarch but are now recommended by the Australian government.

The job is largely ceremonial – a governor-general in almost every circumstance must act on the advice of the government of the day. But conventions allow them the right to “encourage” and “warn” politicians.

Key duties include signing bills into law, issuing writs for elections, and swearing in ministers.

Mr Hurley has run into trouble on the latter. At Mr Morrison’s request, he swore the prime minister in as joint minister for health in March 2020, in case the existing minister became incapacitated by Covid.

Over the next 14 months, he also signed off Mr Morrison as an additional minister in the finance, treasury, home affairs and resources portfolios.

Mr Morrison already had ministerial powers, so Mr Hurley was basically just giving him authority over extra departments.

It’s a request the governor-general “would not have any kind of power to override or reject”, constitutional law professor Anne Twomey tells the BBC.

“This wasn’t even a meeting between the prime minister and the governor-general, it was just paperwork.”

But Mr Morrison’s appointments were not publicly announced, disclosed to the parliament, or even communicated to most of the ministers he was job-sharing with.

Australia’s solicitor-general found Mr Morrison’s actions were not illegal but had “fundamentally undermined” responsible government.

But the governor-general had done the right thing, the solicitor-general said in his advice this week.

It would have been “a clear breach” for him to refuse the prime minister, regardless of whether he knew the appointments would be kept secret, Stephen Donaghue said.

Critics push for investigation

Ultimately, Mr Hurley had to sign off on Mr Morrison’s requests, but critics say he could have counselled him against it and he could have publicised it himself.

But representatives for the governor-general say these types of appointments – giving ministers the right to administer other departments – are not unusual.

And it falls to the government of the day to decide if they should be announced to the public. They often opt not to.

Mr Hurley himself announcing the appointments would be unprecedented. He had “no reason to believe that appointments would not be communicated”, his spokesperson said.

Emeritus professor Jenny Hocking finds the suggestion Mr Hurley didn’t know the ministries had been kept secret “ridiculous”.

“The last of these bizarre, duplicated ministry appointments… were made more than a year after the first, so clearly by then the governor-general did know that they weren’t being made public,” she says.

“I don’t agree for a moment that the governor-general has a lot of things on his plate and might not have noticed.”

The historian says it’s one of the biggest controversies surrounding a governor-general since John Kerr caused a constitutional crisis by sacking Prime Minister Gough Whitlam in 1975.

Prof Hocking famously fought for transparency around that matter – waging a lengthy and costly legal battle that culminated in the release of Mr Kerr’s correspondence with the Queen.

And she says the same transparency is needed here.

The Australian public need to know whether Mr Hurley counselled the prime minister against the moves, and why he didn’t disclose them

The government has already announced an inquiry into Mr Morrison’s actions, but she wants it to look at the governor-general and his office too.

“If the inquiry is to find out what happened in order to fix what happened, it would be extremely problematic to leave out a key part of that equation.”

Former Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull – Mr Morrison’s predecessor – has also voiced support for an inquiry.

“Something has gone seriously wrong at Government House,” he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

“It is the passive compliance along the chain… that did undermine our constitution and our democracy… that troubles me the most. This is how tyranny gets under way.”

PM defends governor-general

Prof Twomey says the criticism of Mr Hurley is unfair – there’s was no “conspiracy” on his part to keep things secret.

“I don’t think it’s reasonable for anyone to expect that he could have guessed that the prime minister was keeping things secret from his own ministers, for example.

“Nobody really thought that was a possibility until about two weeks ago.”

Even if he had taken the unprecedented step to publicise the appointments or to reject Mr Morrison’s request, he’d have been criticised, she says.

“There’d be even more people saying ‘how outrageous!'” she says. “The role of governor-general is awkward because people are going to attack you either way.”

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has also defended Mr Hurley, saying he was just doing his job.

“I have no intention of undertaking any criticism of [him].”

A role fit for purpose?

Prof Hocking says it’s a timely moment to look at the role of the governor-general more broadly.

She points out it’s possible the Queen may have been informed about Mr Morrison’s extra ministries when Australia’s parliament and people were not.

“It does raise questions about whether this is fit for purpose, as we have for decades been a fully independent nation, but we still have… ‘the relics of colonialism’ alive and well.”

Momentum for a fresh referendum on an Australian republic has been growing and advocates have seized on the controversy.

“The idea that the Queen and her representative can be relied upon to uphold our system of government has been debunked once and for all,” the Australian Republic Movement’s Sandy Biar says.

“It’s time we had an Australian head of state, chosen by Australians and accountable to them to safeguard and uphold Australia’s constitution.”

But Prof Twomey says republicans are “clutching at straws” – under their proposals, the head of state would also have been bound to follow the prime minister’s advice.

“It wouldn’t result in any changes that would have made one iota of difference.”

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